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During the latest episode of Insight with Chris Van Vliet, former WWE star Kaitlyn answers the question if she’ll ever wrestle again, winning the Divas Championship and Michael Cole taking a call during one of her matches.
On if she’ll ever wrestle again:
“I hope no one hates me for this, but I don’t really want to get back in the ring. I respect wrestling a lot, and I find it very entertaining. I love the artistry of it. I don’t think I could ever have the appreciation that I have now if I had never been a professional wrestler. Because there are so many aspects to the performance. There’s so many things to think about. The psychology of the match, connecting with people, telling a story with your face and your body, protecting your face and your body, protecting the person that you’re in the ring with, helping them perform to their best. Knowing where the cameras are, knowing how much time you have, being able to change it up if the people in the audience aren’t buying it, if they don’t care about it, so there’s so much to it. It’s such a beautiful art form, so I will always love it and deeply respect it. I don’t really watch it, but occasionally I will if there’s someone that I’m still friends with or that I love. Occasionally I’ll watch a match, but I don’t know. I don’t think I am gonna get back in the ring because I don’t have this burning desire to do that.”
What she is doing now:
“I’ve been coaching. So when I left wrestling, I started a clothing line called Celestial Bodies. So I was having that seam sewn into my wrestling gear, and so when I left, it was being done in swimsuits and fitness competition suits, but it was not being done in leggings. So I got a prototype made, and yeah, I created and trademarked and patented the booty scrunch legging in 2014, and I tried for so many years to get a utility patent, which truly protects something in fashion, but I could only get a design patent, and so people had started to use the design within months of me putting that out. But yeah, I created the booty scrunch legging in 2014. I’ve had so many men thank me for that. It’s the way it accentuates the curves of a woman, and this was such an important thing to me because I was self-conscious for years on television, and my weight fluctuated. In 2012, I was like super ripped, and then I went through these stages of where I had gained weight, and life on the road was very difficult. Not to mention the stress and the cortisol constantly pumping through my body, and then all the pressure of everything else. So I struggled a lot with my body image and feeling confident in the ring, and I never really felt like I was able to get to that flow state of loving my wrestling gear. So when I left and wanted to start this other business and rebuild my identity and do something different, establish myself as an entrepreneur, I thought this idea was so cool. This helped me. Even this just tiny little new thing, this tiny little thing, gave me a little bit more confidence. Anything that could help me feel more confident was really powerful. So I felt very passionate about it, and I had that business for seven years, and I had a lot of success. I reestablished myself in the fitness industry, and yes, being a WWE Diva helped elevate me a lot and gave me a lot of credibility. I had this massive following from wrestling, and I was on the cover of Iron Man magazine twice, and I was on the cover not only as a fitness personality but as an entrepreneur, and that meant a lot because it was finally me stepping out of this shadow of just being Kaitlyn.”
On winning the Divas Championship:
“Just like everything in my wrestling career, it was so surreal. I didn’t really have time to process it, but I knew that Eve wanted to leave, and again, we had such a beautiful relationship; she elevated me so much, and she wanted to leave and start a family and do something different in her life. So I felt this enormous honor to be the person that received the title from her in her farewell match; it was so important because there were multiple things happening. Also yeah, wrestling is scripted and written, and when you’re the champ, they decide you’re going to be the champ. But I think that in a lot of ways is more powerful than you just randomly winning a match. This is just how I see it. I became a person who was worthy of holding the championship, and especially knowing the way that I started, that was so significant to me. I did it. I was scared and afraid that I wasn’t going to be able to live up to being the type of champion that Eve was. Then to be able to win the title in my hometown as a babyface was very cool in front of all my friends and family, and Houston wrestling fans are so supportive, and every once in a while people still recognize me around here. But it was just one of the coolest and most profound moments of my life.”
Backstage after winning the Divas Championship:
“I did an interview right when I got backstage. Didn’t even know what I was saying. But it was just like it was one of those moments where I was in the quantum, this field of infinite possibilities. I made it to this level of a world champion. Again, wrestling is predetermined; it’s written, but to become someone through the course of three and a half years, starting from absolutely zero experience to then holding the title representing the women’s division of a global company, I don’t even know what word to use.”
On a match that wasn’t treated well on commentary:
“Here’s what’s kind of crazy, worrying about what was being said on commentary, which I obviously would hear later to watch it back, was the least of my worries. Because I think that match in terms of my level of experience, I still had less than 10 matches. I had zero experience, and so Maxine had more experience than me, but she wasn’t like this.”
It was clarified this is not Maxxine Dupri:
“Yes, NXT Maxine back in the day, but she wasn’t this veteran. She had more experience than me. She was the veteran in the ring, and we weren’t super cool. We weren’t super tight. We didn’t have this excellent chemistry, and I think that she was really bothered that she had to have a match with me because I had zero experience. And it’s not like I put myself in this position. I’m just willing to do it.”
On the belief Michael Cole took a phone in the middle of the match:
“Michael Cole took it really far. I’m saying it is the least of my worries because I was under so much pressure to just even remember the basic components of the match, and then also remember that there’s cameras and trying not to hurt her and try to protect myself. So there were so many things. I think Michael Cole took it really far. This is what I noticed. That match was really horrifying for me. It was undoubtedly a terrible match…It’s just boring. I think that they probably edited a couple of mess-ups. I messed up in there. It’s not atrocious, but it’s pretty bad. So that post that you read earlier that I had made recently, wrestling fans, and not all of them, I love wrestling fans, but there are certain people that are so hard on the wrestlers, on the performers, and so critical. I was absolutely ripped apart on social media for matches like that. I don’t think people knew that I didn’t know what I was doing. I don’t think that people really understood that. I think part of that is like being a rookie, you develop tough skin. When I was talking about that post, moments like that for the entirety of my career, and even after I left, people always have something to say. People think that they know you, and it’s like people create this certain image of who you are in their mind, and that’s the only thing that they see. I never really lost sleep over it, but it used to really affect me. It used to really affect my confidence. Now, it’s just this different level of acceptance and understanding of where people are at, it doesn’t necessarily affect me, and it shouldn’t affect
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On if she’ll ever wrestle again:
“I hope no one hates me for this, but I don’t really want to get back in the ring. I respect wrestling a lot, and I find it very entertaining. I love the artistry of it. I don’t think I could ever have the appreciation that I have now if I had never been a professional wrestler. Because there are so many aspects to the performance. There’s so many things to think about. The psychology of the match, connecting with people, telling a story with your face and your body, protecting your face and your body, protecting the person that you’re in the ring with, helping them perform to their best. Knowing where the cameras are, knowing how much time you have, being able to change it up if the people in the audience aren’t buying it, if they don’t care about it, so there’s so much to it. It’s such a beautiful art form, so I will always love it and deeply respect it. I don’t really watch it, but occasionally I will if there’s someone that I’m still friends with or that I love. Occasionally I’ll watch a match, but I don’t know. I don’t think I am gonna get back in the ring because I don’t have this burning desire to do that.”
What she is doing now:
“I’ve been coaching. So when I left wrestling, I started a clothing line called Celestial Bodies. So I was having that seam sewn into my wrestling gear, and so when I left, it was being done in swimsuits and fitness competition suits, but it was not being done in leggings. So I got a prototype made, and yeah, I created and trademarked and patented the booty scrunch legging in 2014, and I tried for so many years to get a utility patent, which truly protects something in fashion, but I could only get a design patent, and so people had started to use the design within months of me putting that out. But yeah, I created the booty scrunch legging in 2014. I’ve had so many men thank me for that. It’s the way it accentuates the curves of a woman, and this was such an important thing to me because I was self-conscious for years on television, and my weight fluctuated. In 2012, I was like super ripped, and then I went through these stages of where I had gained weight, and life on the road was very difficult. Not to mention the stress and the cortisol constantly pumping through my body, and then all the pressure of everything else. So I struggled a lot with my body image and feeling confident in the ring, and I never really felt like I was able to get to that flow state of loving my wrestling gear. So when I left and wanted to start this other business and rebuild my identity and do something different, establish myself as an entrepreneur, I thought this idea was so cool. This helped me. Even this just tiny little new thing, this tiny little thing, gave me a little bit more confidence. Anything that could help me feel more confident was really powerful. So I felt very passionate about it, and I had that business for seven years, and I had a lot of success. I reestablished myself in the fitness industry, and yes, being a WWE Diva helped elevate me a lot and gave me a lot of credibility. I had this massive following from wrestling, and I was on the cover of Iron Man magazine twice, and I was on the cover not only as a fitness personality but as an entrepreneur, and that meant a lot because it was finally me stepping out of this shadow of just being Kaitlyn.”
On winning the Divas Championship:
“Just like everything in my wrestling career, it was so surreal. I didn’t really have time to process it, but I knew that Eve wanted to leave, and again, we had such a beautiful relationship; she elevated me so much, and she wanted to leave and start a family and do something different in her life. So I felt this enormous honor to be the person that received the title from her in her farewell match; it was so important because there were multiple things happening. Also yeah, wrestling is scripted and written, and when you’re the champ, they decide you’re going to be the champ. But I think that in a lot of ways is more powerful than you just randomly winning a match. This is just how I see it. I became a person who was worthy of holding the championship, and especially knowing the way that I started, that was so significant to me. I did it. I was scared and afraid that I wasn’t going to be able to live up to being the type of champion that Eve was. Then to be able to win the title in my hometown as a babyface was very cool in front of all my friends and family, and Houston wrestling fans are so supportive, and every once in a while people still recognize me around here. But it was just one of the coolest and most profound moments of my life.”
Backstage after winning the Divas Championship:
“I did an interview right when I got backstage. Didn’t even know what I was saying. But it was just like it was one of those moments where I was in the quantum, this field of infinite possibilities. I made it to this level of a world champion. Again, wrestling is predetermined; it’s written, but to become someone through the course of three and a half years, starting from absolutely zero experience to then holding the title representing the women’s division of a global company, I don’t even know what word to use.”
On a match that wasn’t treated well on commentary:
“Here’s what’s kind of crazy, worrying about what was being said on commentary, which I obviously would hear later to watch it back, was the least of my worries. Because I think that match in terms of my level of experience, I still had less than 10 matches. I had zero experience, and so Maxine had more experience than me, but she wasn’t like this.”
It was clarified this is not Maxxine Dupri:
“Yes, NXT Maxine back in the day, but she wasn’t this veteran. She had more experience than me. She was the veteran in the ring, and we weren’t super cool. We weren’t super tight. We didn’t have this excellent chemistry, and I think that she was really bothered that she had to have a match with me because I had zero experience. And it’s not like I put myself in this position. I’m just willing to do it.”
On the belief Michael Cole took a phone in the middle of the match:
“Michael Cole took it really far. I’m saying it is the least of my worries because I was under so much pressure to just even remember the basic components of the match, and then also remember that there’s cameras and trying not to hurt her and try to protect myself. So there were so many things. I think Michael Cole took it really far. This is what I noticed. That match was really horrifying for me. It was undoubtedly a terrible match…It’s just boring. I think that they probably edited a couple of mess-ups. I messed up in there. It’s not atrocious, but it’s pretty bad. So that post that you read earlier that I had made recently, wrestling fans, and not all of them, I love wrestling fans, but there are certain people that are so hard on the wrestlers, on the performers, and so critical. I was absolutely ripped apart on social media for matches like that. I don’t think people knew that I didn’t know what I was doing. I don’t think that people really understood that. I think part of that is like being a rookie, you develop tough skin. When I was talking about that post, moments like that for the entirety of my career, and even after I left, people always have something to say. People think that they know you, and it’s like people create this certain image of who you are in their mind, and that’s the only thing that they see. I never really lost sleep over it, but it used to really affect me. It used to really affect my confidence. Now, it’s just this different level of acceptance and understanding of where people are at, it doesn’t necessarily affect me, and it shouldn’t affect
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